Here is another fine example of the illusion and dishonesty displayed by Keith. Below is an extract on Keith’s very own blog of which he says is an official transcript of the Treasure Trove Application.
Taken From http://oakislandmoneypitblogspotcom.blogspot.com/
“To Mr. RatcliffeFrom Mr. Keith RanvilleDate May 5, 2006I hereby apply for treasure trove rights for over the area, located in Mahone bay Lunenburg County
Claim -------- Tract-------------------- Claim Referance Map -
Jklnopq ------- 22----------------------------21a9bKlmnop ------- 23-
Bcdefgklmnop--26-
All Claims-------7-
Abcd-----------46-
Bcd------------ 47-
A---------------45-
Additional claimsClaims continuedClaims--------tract--------------------Claim reference map-
Mn------------12--------------------------- 21a9a-
Jq--------------1----------------------------21a9a-Abcflm-------- 24-J---------------23-
Initial K.R
I would like these rights for/ no (5) years in which I plan to undertake
Yours Truly
Keith Ranville,”
Here is page 2 of Keith’s application
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keithapplicationp2small.JPG
Notice where Keith signed the 5 May 06 application, and then on 29 May 06 below his signature, he amended the application to include Birch Island, then resigned.
Keith leaves out the KEY statement "..amended May29/06" as part of the illusion on his version of the transcript. This proves Keith did not know Birch Island even existed on 5 May 06. This clearly shows he was in search of a better target of opportunity, even after his initial TTL application, as his Skull Island (Big Island) was not too convincing for the general public. Basically, he needed something and quick!
So why would Keith have you think he made application for Birch Island on 5 May 06? Because he says he knew of Birch Island all along and it was top secret, and was only misleading people prior to that!
You can read the remainder of this blog to see how the illusion developed.
FYI, Keith is not in possession of his very own TTL application, otherwise he would post it for people to see. Further, this is typical text manipulation by Keith, as previously shown with angie Zinck article.
Saturday, March 31, 2007
Sunday, March 18, 2007
Time to debunk Keith's theory
I have already proven without a doubt that Keith’s is running noting but an investment scam though his ‘Business Opportunity’. Please read my entry for 15 March 2007 for further information.
Now that his investment scam is debunked, it is time to debunk his theory. I have never countered Keith’s theory, and I thought it better to wait until Keith admitted to lying about Birch Island. Certainly you might be confused over Keith's theory, so here it is.
Keith thinks the Money Pit’s ‘Inscribed Stone’ allegedly found in 1805 and to have displayed unknown symbols, and in-conjunction with a series of small stones which formed a triangle found on the south shore; somehow contains references which point to (insert location of the month here). These two items are the foundation to his theory.
Interestingly, Keith is making a documentary so he may need some facts.
Fact, Keith says he challenges a translation of the symbols by a Professor James Leitchi of Dalhousie University and dating to the 1860s. The problem is, the professor translated a 37 character code, while Keith translated the 40 character code by Edward Snow (from his book True Tales of Buried Treasure), which is the popular “Forty feet below ten million pounds are buried”. I bet Keith does not even know what the 37 character code of Leitchi said. This is a typical mistake made by those who have not done their research and only shows that Keith is an idiot. This point is actually laughable to anyone who knows of Oak Island.
Think about this...here is Keith boasting of this code which is known to have been modified by a fictional writer in 1952...really where will it end?
Fact, testimony from by Harry W Marshall, said that he was familiar with the stone, as it was on display in his father’s store of Creighton and Marshall. Harry said that in the late 1880s, the stone had no visible symbols that were either painted or scratched into the surface except for the initials JM.
Was the stone for real? Popular opinion going back to the 1860s is for the symbols on the stone to have been faked for the purpose of soliciting investment in another treasure hunt. Yes, there were sceptics of this stone going right back to when it made its first public appearance. It seems that over 150 years later, these ‘symbols’ on the stone are being used for this very same purpose. Again, this shows Keith is nothing more than an idiot.
Fact, as interesting as the triangle of stones might be, they are nothing more than of contemporary times, post 1795 and perhaps from 1897. Fortunately some of those early (1860s) Oak island investors were VERY wealthy men as Halifax had many. One of those investors had the wisdom (and the money) to hire an early photographer during the 1860s and onwards. There are many old photos on glass plate negatives which were taken of the South Shore. These photos show a shoreline and ground elevation much differently than exists today (post 1897). During this period, the mine tailings from the MP and numerous other pits were deposited in the exact location of where the triangle of stones was located. Specifically, photographic evidence exists which shows the operations at Pit 14 with a dump system of elevated rails directly over the triangle’s location. There was so much mine tailing deposited, that it elevated the entire area by approximately 3 ft and to such a degree the area has been permanently altered. Welling found this triangle of stones on the surface and only covered by grass, certainly not buried by the few feet of dirt which were deposited over it. Can this triangle of stones be from the original construction? I think not. This is just another sloppy bit of research by Keith, for the purpose of his scam, and only shows that he is an idiot.
Well folks there you have it. As a note to Keith’s movie guy, I tried to warn you about Keith only fishing for a sucker and he caught you.
Keith, when can we expect a custom 37 character code translation which points to Birch Island?
Now that his investment scam is debunked, it is time to debunk his theory. I have never countered Keith’s theory, and I thought it better to wait until Keith admitted to lying about Birch Island. Certainly you might be confused over Keith's theory, so here it is.
Keith thinks the Money Pit’s ‘Inscribed Stone’ allegedly found in 1805 and to have displayed unknown symbols, and in-conjunction with a series of small stones which formed a triangle found on the south shore; somehow contains references which point to (insert location of the month here). These two items are the foundation to his theory.
Interestingly, Keith is making a documentary so he may need some facts.
Fact, Keith says he challenges a translation of the symbols by a Professor James Leitchi of Dalhousie University and dating to the 1860s. The problem is, the professor translated a 37 character code, while Keith translated the 40 character code by Edward Snow (from his book True Tales of Buried Treasure), which is the popular “Forty feet below ten million pounds are buried”. I bet Keith does not even know what the 37 character code of Leitchi said. This is a typical mistake made by those who have not done their research and only shows that Keith is an idiot. This point is actually laughable to anyone who knows of Oak Island.
Think about this...here is Keith boasting of this code which is known to have been modified by a fictional writer in 1952...really where will it end?
Fact, testimony from by Harry W Marshall, said that he was familiar with the stone, as it was on display in his father’s store of Creighton and Marshall. Harry said that in the late 1880s, the stone had no visible symbols that were either painted or scratched into the surface except for the initials JM.
Was the stone for real? Popular opinion going back to the 1860s is for the symbols on the stone to have been faked for the purpose of soliciting investment in another treasure hunt. Yes, there were sceptics of this stone going right back to when it made its first public appearance. It seems that over 150 years later, these ‘symbols’ on the stone are being used for this very same purpose. Again, this shows Keith is nothing more than an idiot.
Fact, as interesting as the triangle of stones might be, they are nothing more than of contemporary times, post 1795 and perhaps from 1897. Fortunately some of those early (1860s) Oak island investors were VERY wealthy men as Halifax had many. One of those investors had the wisdom (and the money) to hire an early photographer during the 1860s and onwards. There are many old photos on glass plate negatives which were taken of the South Shore. These photos show a shoreline and ground elevation much differently than exists today (post 1897). During this period, the mine tailings from the MP and numerous other pits were deposited in the exact location of where the triangle of stones was located. Specifically, photographic evidence exists which shows the operations at Pit 14 with a dump system of elevated rails directly over the triangle’s location. There was so much mine tailing deposited, that it elevated the entire area by approximately 3 ft and to such a degree the area has been permanently altered. Welling found this triangle of stones on the surface and only covered by grass, certainly not buried by the few feet of dirt which were deposited over it. Can this triangle of stones be from the original construction? I think not. This is just another sloppy bit of research by Keith, for the purpose of his scam, and only shows that he is an idiot.
Well folks there you have it. As a note to Keith’s movie guy, I tried to warn you about Keith only fishing for a sucker and he caught you.
Keith, when can we expect a custom 37 character code translation which points to Birch Island?
Thursday, March 15, 2007
Definative Post on Keith
This post is the definitive guide to debunk the claims made by Keith regarding his Birch Island Illusion.
Essentially Keith has narrowed himself into a corner by stating he knew of Birch Island since the beginning of his research and that everything else was intentionally misleading.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/ranvillediscoverystory.jpg
This statement is the fundamental essence to his defence of Birch Island of which I shall prove is nothing more than a lie. I shall prove through dates of his TTL application that Keith was unaware of Birch Island until after 5 May 06; therefore his letters of support which are of previous dates, cannot even apply to Birch Island (but I encourage you to contact the authors of said letters of support). Remember this, Keith claims to have known of Birch Island prior to meeting me for the first time in Dec 2005.
Here is Keith’s two page hand written Treasure Trove Application
Page 1
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keithapplicationp1small.jpg
Page 2
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keithapplicationp2small.JPG
(The DNR blacked out the confidential section)
I have included the NS Government Claim Reference Map for areas 21A09B and 21A09A so that you can understand what he was claiming and when. Here are photos of these maps to show that I do possess them.
21A09A
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09A.JPG
21A09A Tract 12
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09A12.JPG
21A09B
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09B.JPG
Just to note, see on the 21A09B where it still says PENDING. This confirms Keith has no landowner permission or government permits as he does not like telling you.
Detailed Scans
Key to understanding the map are monthly updates which are drawn in heavy dark lines. Thus these dark lines on the maps were last updated in Feb 07. The maps show large squares (Tracts) that are sequentially numbered from lower right to upper left. Each main square is further sub-divided into a smaller alpha grid and represent the letters under the Claim column on his application. I have used grid 25 to show for illustration purpose how this works.
Based upon Keith’s TTL application, I have added a green line to show the boundary extent to Keith application as it existed on 5 May 06, and a red line to show the amendment made on 29 May 06. Note Claim MN for Tract 12 of 21A9A is the same as Claim JQ Tract 1 of 21A9B, the only difference is that 21A9A map has the word “Birch Island”, while 21A9B map shows the physical island itself.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09Bdetail.JPG
Clearly you see his top secret Birch Island is not part of any such claim as he made on 5 May 06.
Further you will notice the claims in grids 27, 45,46, and 47 are consistent with what I have stated, Keith was only interested in Big Island, the Gold River and Middle river Basin, as he thought underwater doors to exist at these locations.
Tank’s original Keith Ranville post dated 7 Oct 05 also confirms Keith’s TTL Application as to what he thought,
http://forum.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=16722
‘The next half hour we talked about his theory, yes, Keith has a theory. He is largely Cree, but part Scottish and French and was born in Winnipeg. He has had dreams about Oak Island for some time now. He first encountered this enigma in his home province of British Columbia and decided to make the pilgrimage to Nova Scotia to seek out knowledge, and me. "Have you read any Oak Island books" I asked, "no" Keith said, "I don't want to have any outside influences to cloud my ideas". Keith sees the shape of whole Bison or Buffalo or even just their heads in the headlands and lakes in the area, and is absolutely convinced there is a cave at the mouth of the Middle or Gold Rivers. His home made maps were familiar looking with lines drawn from the Money Pit and drilled stones to the mainland and up to certain lakes, rivers and so on.”
Also Keith’s own interpretation of the Heddon fragment confirms the 5 May TTL application in that he was interested in river areas.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/krheddon.jpg
Further, Keith’s email to me regarding his Skull Island (or Big Island in the real world) is the third such confirmation of Keith’s beliefs as confirmed by his TTL application.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keith_email_skull.JPG
Essentially, Keith felt his Skull Island had enough mystery for the main stream folks. After 5 May 06, Keith was starting to be asked some very serious questions, but could only offer that he sees these skulls because of his native heritage. After 5 May 06, Keith realized Skull Island might not be the best target to exploit, so he expanded his search and found Birch Island which appears more suited for his plan. On 29 May 06, he amended his TTL to include Birch Island and included the interconnecting water zones.
As you can read in Keith’s 5 May 06 application, he was interested in conducting an ocean search, noting more, nothing less, certainly never on land or island.
Finally, even after 29 May 06 and having now included Birch Island, Keith admits to me via email dated 31 May 06, that he needs to find out who the owner is so he can access the island. Obviously Keith never visited Birch Island or conducted any testing prior to his application. This seems desperate and is more typical of grabbing at straws and hoping for the best!
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/krbirchislandrequest.JPG
In summary, I have proven through Keith’s own hand written TTL application that he was unaware of Birch Island as he claimed, the letters of support which pre-date the TTL cannot possibly be for supporting of Birch Island, and that he was truly interested in other areas until he found a more sellable topographical feature on Birch Island. Without conducting any investigate, he rushed out and struck his claim.
Does Keith’s ‘Business Opportunity’ and the rest of his illusion sound legitimate to you?
BTW Keith, this cost me $2.00 for each map, and $1.00 for parking, they didn't even charge for the TTL Application...the best $5.00 I ever spent!!!
Essentially Keith has narrowed himself into a corner by stating he knew of Birch Island since the beginning of his research and that everything else was intentionally misleading.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/ranvillediscoverystory.jpg
This statement is the fundamental essence to his defence of Birch Island of which I shall prove is nothing more than a lie. I shall prove through dates of his TTL application that Keith was unaware of Birch Island until after 5 May 06; therefore his letters of support which are of previous dates, cannot even apply to Birch Island (but I encourage you to contact the authors of said letters of support). Remember this, Keith claims to have known of Birch Island prior to meeting me for the first time in Dec 2005.
Here is Keith’s two page hand written Treasure Trove Application
Page 1
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keithapplicationp1small.jpg
Page 2
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keithapplicationp2small.JPG
(The DNR blacked out the confidential section)
I have included the NS Government Claim Reference Map for areas 21A09B and 21A09A so that you can understand what he was claiming and when. Here are photos of these maps to show that I do possess them.
21A09A
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09A.JPG
21A09A Tract 12
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09A12.JPG
21A09B
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09B.JPG
Just to note, see on the 21A09B where it still says PENDING. This confirms Keith has no landowner permission or government permits as he does not like telling you.
Detailed Scans
Key to understanding the map are monthly updates which are drawn in heavy dark lines. Thus these dark lines on the maps were last updated in Feb 07. The maps show large squares (Tracts) that are sequentially numbered from lower right to upper left. Each main square is further sub-divided into a smaller alpha grid and represent the letters under the Claim column on his application. I have used grid 25 to show for illustration purpose how this works.
Based upon Keith’s TTL application, I have added a green line to show the boundary extent to Keith application as it existed on 5 May 06, and a red line to show the amendment made on 29 May 06. Note Claim MN for Tract 12 of 21A9A is the same as Claim JQ Tract 1 of 21A9B, the only difference is that 21A9A map has the word “Birch Island”, while 21A9B map shows the physical island itself.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/21A09Bdetail.JPG
Clearly you see his top secret Birch Island is not part of any such claim as he made on 5 May 06.
Further you will notice the claims in grids 27, 45,46, and 47 are consistent with what I have stated, Keith was only interested in Big Island, the Gold River and Middle river Basin, as he thought underwater doors to exist at these locations.
Tank’s original Keith Ranville post dated 7 Oct 05 also confirms Keith’s TTL Application as to what he thought,
http://forum.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=16722
‘The next half hour we talked about his theory, yes, Keith has a theory. He is largely Cree, but part Scottish and French and was born in Winnipeg. He has had dreams about Oak Island for some time now. He first encountered this enigma in his home province of British Columbia and decided to make the pilgrimage to Nova Scotia to seek out knowledge, and me. "Have you read any Oak Island books" I asked, "no" Keith said, "I don't want to have any outside influences to cloud my ideas". Keith sees the shape of whole Bison or Buffalo or even just their heads in the headlands and lakes in the area, and is absolutely convinced there is a cave at the mouth of the Middle or Gold Rivers. His home made maps were familiar looking with lines drawn from the Money Pit and drilled stones to the mainland and up to certain lakes, rivers and so on.”
Also Keith’s own interpretation of the Heddon fragment confirms the 5 May TTL application in that he was interested in river areas.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/krheddon.jpg
Further, Keith’s email to me regarding his Skull Island (or Big Island in the real world) is the third such confirmation of Keith’s beliefs as confirmed by his TTL application.
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/keith_email_skull.JPG
Essentially, Keith felt his Skull Island had enough mystery for the main stream folks. After 5 May 06, Keith was starting to be asked some very serious questions, but could only offer that he sees these skulls because of his native heritage. After 5 May 06, Keith realized Skull Island might not be the best target to exploit, so he expanded his search and found Birch Island which appears more suited for his plan. On 29 May 06, he amended his TTL to include Birch Island and included the interconnecting water zones.
As you can read in Keith’s 5 May 06 application, he was interested in conducting an ocean search, noting more, nothing less, certainly never on land or island.
Finally, even after 29 May 06 and having now included Birch Island, Keith admits to me via email dated 31 May 06, that he needs to find out who the owner is so he can access the island. Obviously Keith never visited Birch Island or conducted any testing prior to his application. This seems desperate and is more typical of grabbing at straws and hoping for the best!
http://premium1.uploadit.org/skiman/keith/krbirchislandrequest.JPG
In summary, I have proven through Keith’s own hand written TTL application that he was unaware of Birch Island as he claimed, the letters of support which pre-date the TTL cannot possibly be for supporting of Birch Island, and that he was truly interested in other areas until he found a more sellable topographical feature on Birch Island. Without conducting any investigate, he rushed out and struck his claim.
Does Keith’s ‘Business Opportunity’ and the rest of his illusion sound legitimate to you?
BTW Keith, this cost me $2.00 for each map, and $1.00 for parking, they didn't even charge for the TTL Application...the best $5.00 I ever spent!!!
Sunday, March 11, 2007
Letters of Support
I have been receiving email regarding the letters of support which Keith uses to prop up his Business Opportunity.
I find it difficult not to bias anyone attempting to confirm the letters of support, except to say, please contact the various authors. I think you will find a VERY different story to the one which Keith is attempting to link for support.
If you ask only one question, I suggest the following:
“Did at anytime Keith Ranville ever mention a location called Birch Island?”
This is a valid question which will independently prove to you, that Keith never discussed the Birch Island interpretation change #4 with the authors of said letters, thus the support which he implies for Birch Island is not valid. Clearly, the various letters of support were drafted at a minimum of five months prior to knowing that Birch Island ever existed.
If you contact the author of the Oak Island Tourism Society’s letter of support, you can also ask why no retraction was ever published? The ‘Don’t say anything and hopefully he’ll disappear’ tactic is more suited to the behaviour of an ostrich.
You can immediately read the opinion of the author who wrote the Oak Island Tourism Society’s letter at the following forum:
http://forum.oakislandtreasure.co.uk and you’d be looking for posts made by Tank04. Perhaps you can even contact the author at this forum, as the Society’s email link is invalid.
As you may have previously read, I have contacted Dr. Zou and provided the contact previously in the blog. I think Dr. Zou must now be sick of taking calls about Keith, but he certainly does like to laugh about it.
All in all, you must ask yourself why does Keith use these letters of support in his Business Opportunity, when they invalid?
I find it difficult not to bias anyone attempting to confirm the letters of support, except to say, please contact the various authors. I think you will find a VERY different story to the one which Keith is attempting to link for support.
If you ask only one question, I suggest the following:
“Did at anytime Keith Ranville ever mention a location called Birch Island?”
This is a valid question which will independently prove to you, that Keith never discussed the Birch Island interpretation change #4 with the authors of said letters, thus the support which he implies for Birch Island is not valid. Clearly, the various letters of support were drafted at a minimum of five months prior to knowing that Birch Island ever existed.
If you contact the author of the Oak Island Tourism Society’s letter of support, you can also ask why no retraction was ever published? The ‘Don’t say anything and hopefully he’ll disappear’ tactic is more suited to the behaviour of an ostrich.
You can immediately read the opinion of the author who wrote the Oak Island Tourism Society’s letter at the following forum:
http://forum.oakislandtreasure.co.uk and you’d be looking for posts made by Tank04. Perhaps you can even contact the author at this forum, as the Society’s email link is invalid.
As you may have previously read, I have contacted Dr. Zou and provided the contact previously in the blog. I think Dr. Zou must now be sick of taking calls about Keith, but he certainly does like to laugh about it.
All in all, you must ask yourself why does Keith use these letters of support in his Business Opportunity, when they invalid?
Official Translation Change
It is official! Keith himself admits to yet another translation which is now the fifth. After Keith read this blog, he finally admits to changing his translation.
http://thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,685.msg17270.html#msg17270
Do you see how this mysterious translation keeps changing subtle form? If you have been following his antics, Keith is a staunch defender of each translation, even though the various translations point towards different locations.
I would like to make a summary posting of the language Keith uses; however, most of the good material has been deleted from the various forums. I do thank the various administrators and moderators who have seen right through his scam for your investment dollars. Unfortunately there are still a few sites which allow his Business Proposal to remain.
I can tell you, that Keith merely attempts to cast any critic into a dark light, rather than to substantiate anything which he claims.
http://thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,685.msg17270.html#msg17270
Do you see how this mysterious translation keeps changing subtle form? If you have been following his antics, Keith is a staunch defender of each translation, even though the various translations point towards different locations.
I would like to make a summary posting of the language Keith uses; however, most of the good material has been deleted from the various forums. I do thank the various administrators and moderators who have seen right through his scam for your investment dollars. Unfortunately there are still a few sites which allow his Business Proposal to remain.
I can tell you, that Keith merely attempts to cast any critic into a dark light, rather than to substantiate anything which he claims.
The second triangle
All part of the illusion.
Keith Ranville wrote at the following link:
http://thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,685.msg17247.html#msg17247
“The evidence that I found like the triangle symbols found on a inscribed stone, in the money pit read about triangles inverted to each other so there was a stone triangle found south of the money pit. So the symbols described a second triangle so I looked for a second triangle, there was no second triangle on Oak Island so I expaned my search on google satilite and went east and low and behold a second triangle poped up at me.”
In this part of the illusion, Keith would have you actually think he searched on Oak Island for a second triangle. It would be hard for Keith to have searched on Oak Island, as he has never visited the island.
Please ask Keith to describe his search for the second triangle on Oak Island. Lol
Google may show an island, but the resolution for these aerials is just too course to even pick out a single mature tree, never mind a triangle of small stones which had a measured side of only 10ft.
Further Keith's statement once again contradicts his previous interpretations as no where has he evened mentioned an inverted triangle...this must be the first hints at yet another interpretation change...revision #5 perhaps?
Keith has clearly insisted triangles at right angles (to each other) with the second triangle being opposite a right angle, thus east or west…and has never been south!
Keith Ranville wrote at the following link:
http://thunting.com/smf/index.php/topic,685.msg17247.html#msg17247
“The evidence that I found like the triangle symbols found on a inscribed stone, in the money pit read about triangles inverted to each other so there was a stone triangle found south of the money pit. So the symbols described a second triangle so I looked for a second triangle, there was no second triangle on Oak Island so I expaned my search on google satilite and went east and low and behold a second triangle poped up at me.”
In this part of the illusion, Keith would have you actually think he searched on Oak Island for a second triangle. It would be hard for Keith to have searched on Oak Island, as he has never visited the island.
Please ask Keith to describe his search for the second triangle on Oak Island. Lol
Google may show an island, but the resolution for these aerials is just too course to even pick out a single mature tree, never mind a triangle of small stones which had a measured side of only 10ft.
Further Keith's statement once again contradicts his previous interpretations as no where has he evened mentioned an inverted triangle...this must be the first hints at yet another interpretation change...revision #5 perhaps?
Keith has clearly insisted triangles at right angles (to each other) with the second triangle being opposite a right angle, thus east or west…and has never been south!
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